Rien by Etat Libre d'Orange
Men Women 2006
Description
Rien, by the Maison Etat Libre d'Orange, is an olfactory creation from the Woody-Chypre family, launched in 2006 and designed for both men and women. The composition, signed by perfumer Antoine Lie, unfolds a structure where the top notes reveal freshness, the heart adds complexity, and the base anchors the fragrance with a deep woody and chypre warmth.
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- Summer 6.6%
- Autumn 41%
- Day 38%
- Night 62%
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2,543 votes
- Positive 67%
- Negative 25%
- Neutral 7.9%
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About Rien
Rien, by the Maison Etat Libre d’Orange, is an olfactory creation from the Woody-Chypre family, launched in 2006 and designed for both men and women. The composition, signed by perfumer Antoine Lie, unfolds a structure where the top notes reveal freshness, the heart adds complexity, and the base anchors the fragrance with a deep woody and chypre warmth.
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Nothing is like mixing all the colours and ending up with a dark grey, something confirmed on the official website. It’s more than just a ‘baroque’ perfume. If it were music, it would be something like Black Midi, with sheet music that looks like black smudges. Its name is ironic: it has everything and ends up smelling like nothing, and there lies its artistic interest. The opening is dirty, with oxidised metallic notes and plastics, but soon a bitter green apple appears, like fermented cider. Incense and aldehydes dominate, giving an industrial soapy effect, spicy and virile, ideal for lovers of vintage masculine perfumery. Visually, it’s a green soap with ash specks. It has modest projection, intentionally designed for intimate wear. It’s not a tribute to the past, but a modern vision where everything is invented. I enjoy it much: perfect for days of male nihilism, with an ambiguous dirty cleanliness that leaves no answer to enemies. It’s not a ‘troll perfume’ like Secretions Magnifiques, but a strange mix of incense and aldehydes worth knowing.
I went in the wrong direction, being a fan of Intense Incense; I tried this ‘on its own’ and smiled. It’s a clean, white floral, super-aldehydic—the limpid brother of Kouros. I love it.
Nothing is like mixing all the colours and coming out with a dark grey, as the website confirms. It’s more than baroque. If it were music, it would be Black Midi with sheet music that looks like black smudges. Its name is ironic: it has everything and smells like nothing; that’s its art. The opening is dirty, oxidised metal and plastic, but soon a bitter green apple emerges, like fermented cider. Incense and aldehydes dominate, giving a spicy, virile, vintage industrial soap. Visually, it’s a green soap with ash specks. It compensates for its roughness with low projection, seeking intimacy. It’s not a tribute to the past, but a modern vision where everything is invented. I enjoy it for those days of male nihilism, with a dirty cleanliness that leaves no answer. It’s not a troll like Secretions Magnifiques; it’s incense and aldehydes, a rare mix worth it.
A fragrance with such potency and a beastly incense aroma. I’ve become so accustomed to it that I like to sleep with an atomisation on the back of my hand: difficult and overwhelming, yet exquisite.
Bestial incense power and scent. I liked it so much I sleep with a spray bottle on the back of my hand. Difficult and overwhelming, but exquisite.
Definitely not for me. Upon spraying, it delivers a nasal slap due to the potency. Animal incense, perhaps due to the cumin, which gives it a slightly faecal tone. You have to be very brave to wear it without expecting compliments. As I am a coward of the prairie, I won’t put it on and leave it to those seeking the risk.
Definitely not for me. Upon atomising it, it delivers a nasal slap due to the potency. Animalic incense, I suppose from the cumin, which gives it a faecal tinge. One must be very brave to wear it and not expect compliments. As I am a coward, I won’t wear it and leave it to those who like taking risks.
I sprayed it on my hand and before bringing it near my nose, the smell hit my face. It’s very strong and intense, even making my nose itch. The notes that stand out most are incense, cumin, and pepper. It definitely smells like a cathedral.
Upon trying it, I felt a floral touch with feminine nuances, and after several tests, I decided to buy it. Although incense should define it, I struggle to identify it. It transports me to Atlas cedar with its balsamic nuance and to a narcotic, animalic flower. It’s polarising: you either love it or hate it. I find it excellent, different, mysterious and magical. Although I don’t believe perfumes have a gender, it tends to be unisex with a feminine inclination. Its intensity, diffusion and longevity are notable, surpassing any other in my collection. It’s extremely distinctive and of undeniable quality.
Upon first try, I sensed a feminine floral touch, and after several tests, I decided to buy it. Although the incense should be the star, I struggle to detect it; what I do notice is Atlas cedar with its balsamic note, alongside something narcotic-floral and animalic. It’s polarising: you either love it or hate it. For me, it’s excellent, distinctive, mysterious, and magical. While perfumes have no gender, this tends to be unisex with a feminine leaning. Its intensity, diffusion, and longevity are notable, surpassing any other fragrance in my collection. It’s very distinctive and its quality is undeniable.
One of the few that has caused me rejection; I can’t wear it. Upon spraying a little, I feel surrounded by an aggressive cloud threatening to get out of control. I don’t know what I’d do if someone entered its orbit, but it worries me. However, I try it again, surprised by its savagery, bravery and cruelty. As with extremes, I can’t stand it for long. If you want to smell of dirty aldehydes or an abandoned mechanic’s workshop with oil and tar, burnt notes, synthetic and gummy yet dry and sugar-free, this is for you. Soon it develops a smell of a subway gap, boiler room, machine oil, freshness, dryness and rough leather, cousin of the unpleasant Bogart One Man Show Oud Edition. In the end, a touch of burnt rubber and smoking tyres becomes dominant. To wear it, you need zero sensitivity and a weakness for the extravagant. It’s bold and unique, perfect for wandering alone without causing unease. PS: I’ve worn 4 sprays and the longevity is notable; a relative asked if something was burning through a cable. Fortunately, I bought a decant before jumping in blindly.
Let me see if I can explain… I had a 2015 batch that smelled like a cathedral and Buddhist temple; it was a delight. This? No, and to make matters worse, it’s very close to Intense Incense without the rose. Problem: they’ve removed the leather and increased the amber, leaving a ‘standard’ incense. I also feel that since then, the projection has dropped a little, although that’s understandable due to IFRA.
A scent that takes me back to the past; I like leather… but there’s something I can’t handle. I feel that wearing a current scent with old-school nuances is dangerous; perhaps it’s the aldehydes with that mineral touch, the iris with the incense… this fragrance is a dilemma I don’t want to decipher.
Plastic finish. I totally agree; and it goes for most of ELDO, but Rein is the king. I didn’t like it at all. 🙁
What a bomb. There are perfumes that are dizzying and thunderous to give and receive, but whether they seem better or worse made is another matter. This Rien is a punch to the table, and the best part is that it is very well made. The house Etat Libre d’Orange usually falls foul of criticism, whether it is plastic finish or school experiments… I will not be the one to defend them at all costs; I have tried terrible perfumes from the brand, others sloppy and boring, some unbearable, but this one delivers, I found it fascinating. Rien is an eminently vintage fragrance. If you like sweet or chocolatey tonka notes, you will find nothing here, because it positions itself from the start as a dirty and rough perfume. The dirt of Rien is the same as that expelled by a fresh horse dung pile. Anyone who has had donkeys or equines knows what I am talking about; animal excrement is usually disgusting and without nuance, but that of horses, which feed on hay and grass, has something dry, herbaceous, and dusty. I was raised with animals and remember picking it up with my hands when a neighbour came to ask for manure, because unlike the soupy faeces of other mammals, equine excrement practically does not stain. Furthermore, it dries quickly and you can see the strands of forage. The ultra-animal tone of Rien goes by the stables and stalls, relating to the leather of great mid-century French classics, a leather with memories of the stable and kilos of isobutyl quinoline. With this it is clear that Rien is not for everyone; it is severe, animal, and of a primitive Catholic mysticism, without sweetness. When it hits, it delivers a bomb to the senses that knocks you back. When I tested it blind, I felt a gummy accord, of a dizzying oily rawness that made me think it contained Laotian oud or aldehydes. As it evolves, it remains bombastic but settles like a perfume, not like an insult; there I caught a waxy and smoky scale, thinking of birch. No, it is leather, which is not surprising as it shares nuances with birch wood. At the same time, a sub-current of sharp, dirty freshness gave me insolent goosebumps, caraway or cumin. I am pleased to confirm that I recognised the aldehydes, cumin, and leather, which I had confused with birch. At first, Rien develops along that inhospitable path: an abandoned leather sofa in a loft, a saddle with more years than Methuselah, or the dilapidated bed of some horses. All wrapped in dry and smoky accords, an earthy symphony. If we were to speak of God, this is not the one who rocks you to sleep, but an avenging one who sends you to Hell. But beware, Heaven is not better; there you would only pray. The grace comes when the body with airs of the Inquisition loses steam and starts singing the incense: a sacramental incense, ecstatic, with Marian apparitions, herbaceous, smoky, and grave. How beautiful when it joins with the leather roll and isobutyl quinoline to the Greta Garbo, turning something impossible to wear into a spiritual, evocative, and difficult beauty, but ultimately a perfume. If Rien has any slight resinous aftertaste, it is two tips of broom or storax so you do not feel like you are wearing a hairshirt; the key is the mix of leather and incense, smoky, waxy, and imposing like a cathedral. In the dry down, the rose battles with the leather, creating a wax for colouring of a sour, pasty, divine sweetness. I recommend it with eyes closed. If you like this family, it will be to your liking, and if it does not make you laugh but you know how to appreciate a well-made perfume, you will spend an entertaining time watching Archangel Michael give sword blows to the devil. I loved it and find it difficult but with possibilities. PS: Longevity and sillage are excellent. PS II: Ideal wearers: Philip II, Hernán Cortés, Teresa of Ávila, any historical character from that dark and severe Spain, or Joan of Arc. PS III: Mix the old Cuir by Lancome with Bandit by Piguet, add Cabochard and lots of Casbah by Piguet. Rien would be a more fearsome relative than all of these; the incense is more incense, the leather is more leather. PS IV: Mode ‘peacekeeper’ on: I would love for them to stop comparing any leather perfume with Knize Ten. The leather of Knize is talcated and spiced with cloves, geraniums, and vanilla; it has nothing to do with isobutyl quinoline leathers that smell like a stable.
What a bombshell. While overpowering perfumes exist, finding one that is well-crafted is another matter entirely. This Rien is a punch to the gut, and the best part is that it is exceptionally well-made. The house Etat Libre d’Orange often draws criticism—accusations of plastic finishes or schoolboy experiments. I won’t defend them blindly; I have tried terrible, washed-out, and even unbearable scents from the brand. Yet, this is a standout example of a fragrance that truly delivers. I found it fascinating. Rien (Nothing) is a fragrance with an eminently vintage character. If you enjoy sweets, fruity notes, or chocolate tonka, you will find nothing here, as it positions itself from the outset as a dirty, rough scent. The filth of Rien is akin to fresh horse dung. Anyone who has dealt with donkeys or other equines knows what I mean; animal excrement is often disgusting and lacks nuance, whereas horse manure, fed on hay and forage, has a dry, herbaceous, dusty quality. Growing up with animals from all over Noah’s Ark, I remember collecting it directly with my hands when neighbours asked for plant fertiliser. Unlike the soupy, repulsive excrement of other mammals, equine waste hardly stains. In fact, after a few hours, it dries out, revealing even the strands of forage stuck within it. The ultra-animal tone of Rien fits right in with stables, stalls, and horseboxes. This links it directly to the leather accord of great French classics from the mid-20th century: a leather with stable memories and kilos of isobutyl quinoline, the molecule that recreates that scent. With this in mind, it is clear that Rien is not for everyone. It is severe, animalistic, and possesses a primitive Catholic mysticism, devoid of any sweetness. It hits you like a bombshell, throwing you off balance. When I tested it blind, as I usually do, I sensed a gummy accord, an overwhelming oily crudeness that made me think of Laotian oud or aldehydes, which sometimes share such a greasy, tar-like tone. As it evolved, it remained bombastic but settled into a proper fragrance, not an insult to the mouth. That is when I caught a waxy, smoky scale, thinking of birch. No, it is leather, which is not rare as it shares many nuances with birch wood. Simultaneously, a sub-current of sharp, dirty freshness gave me insolent nose twitches, suggesting caraway or cumin. I am pleased to confirm (nothing angers me more than failing to guess a note after a lifetime of testing perfumes) that I recognised the aldehydes, cumin, and leather, though I initially confused them with birch. While this adds nothing to the official notes, it enriches my experience. Initially, Rien follows a path of inhospitable and unpleasant things. It could be an abandoned leather sofa in a loft, a saddle worn older than Methuselah, or the ancient bed where a pair of horses sleep. All wrapped in an aura of dry, smoky accords, a symphony of waxy and earthy scales. To put it another way, if we were speaking of God, this is not a God who forgives your sins and cradles you while stroking your hair. No, this God is vengeful and eager to kick you in the arse to send you to Hell to burn eternally. But beware, Heaven is not better; the only thing you will do up there is pray. That is the deal with Rien. The magic happens when the body, with airs of the Inquisition, starts to lose steam and incense begins to sing opera. It is a sacramental, divine incense, ecstatic, evoking Marian apparitions, a precious herbaceous, smoky, grave scent of exquisite mysticism. And jeez, how beautiful it is when it joins with the chypre-leather or isobutyl quinoline vibe of Greta Garbo, turning something that would be impressive but simply impossible to wear into a spiritual beauty, evocative, still difficult, but ultimately a perfume. If Rien has any faint hint of sweetness or resin as listed, it is merely two tips of juniper, storax, or amber so that a person can wear it without feeling like they are draped in a hairshirt. The key to the formula is a tight blend of leather and incense, incense and leather, and back again: smoky, waxy, imposing like a Catholic cathedral. In the dry-down, the rose dances delightfully with the leather, and as happens when rose meets sandalwood, the mixture becomes a divine, sour-sweet, pasty wax. I recommend it with my eyes closed. If you like this family, it will suit you without doubt. If it doesn’t immediately please you but you know how to appreciate a well-crafted scent, you will have an entertaining time watching Archangel Michael give the devil a couple of sword blows. I loved it and find it difficult, yet with potential to make you fall for it. P.S. Longevity and sillage are excellent. P.S. II. Ideal wearers: Philip II, Hernán Cortés, Teresa of Ávila, and any historical figure you can think of related to that dark, rigorous Spain, the severe, mystical, and austere Spain. Joan of Arc would not go amiss either. P.S. III. Mix the old Cuir de Lancôme with a bit of Bandit by Piguet, add a touch of Cabochard and a lot of Casbah by Piguet. Rien would be like a much more formidable relative of all these. The incense is much more incense, the leather is much more leather. It is all more than the sum of its parts. P.S. IV. Off-topic mode on: I would love for people to stop comparing every leather perfume to Ten Knize. The leather in Knize is talc-like and spiced because it is drunk on cloves, geraniums, and vanilla; it has nothing to do with isobutyl quinoline leathers, which is what scents like this smell like: stable.
Habitually, I assumed that Etat Libre d’Orange fragrances were mostly subtle and delicate, never stopping to consider that there might be something different in their range. This was the one recommended by the very attentive owner of the niche perfume shop in Barcelona where I went last week for a treat. I told him what I wanted: something powerful, masculine, and retro. He let me try several and saved Rien for last. An ironic name, by the way, since Rien (‘Nothing’ in French) is actually many things. Essentially, it’s a leather chypre that could have been born in the early eighties. I’m surprised, in fact, to have read so few references to it on specialised pages dedicated to powerhouses and fragrances of this style. It plays in the same league as legends like Kouros, Van Cleef & Arpels pour Homme, or Channel’s Antaeus. So, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone not immersed in this scene, as they won’t understand or appreciate it. The opening is quite brutal, the punch that all these creations usually propose: an aromatic orgy of leather, patchouli, and animalic nuances, but after five minutes the beast calms down. Around the leather, the patchouli shines, extremely earthy, in the style of the original YSL Gentleman, with a sweet and balsamic decay. Above all, the aldehydes, which although dirty at first, gradually evolve into a soapy and spicy tone, as happens with another masterpiece like Versace pour Homme. The skin is then enveloped by that bar soap cream, precious woods, and herbal notes, among which labdanum stands out, which always reminds me of the smell of a stalk. This part lasts almost forever; Rien doesn’t leave the skin all day, and even the next morning you can smell it close to the skin. It’s not a clunky or invasive perfume, but rather wraps like an aura, with an acceptable trail. And what strikes me, for example, is that it’s not unusual for two different people to pass by me on the same day and tell me I smell like a man. Yes, Rien is refined but also extremely masculine and eighties. Rien has everything I love, just like Kouros and Antaeus. It makes me feel great because I love smelling like this all day, from the very morning, without needing to reapply. I recommend it openly – almost urgently – because since the disappearance of Van Cleef & Arpels Pour Homme, I don’t see many other possibilities today to approach a modern perfume with these characteristics without diving into the vintage market.
Rien is the first sample set perfume from Etat Libre d’Orange that truly surprises me. In reality, it is nothing new; it reminds me of the most balsamic and sweet part of Kouros by YSL, removing most of its animal character, and it is very similar to Diaghilev by Roja Dove. Still, it is an unusual and risky scent, especially these days. The notes that have the most presence are the leather, intense and slightly animal; the aldehydes, which give it a soapy and spicy touch; and the incense, which gives it strength and a balsamic tone. Additionally, you can feel the woody resinous blend at the base, the spices, and the rose that helps to dust the fragrance. It is true that it is a difficult, different, and not for everyone scent; but at least whoever wears it escapes smelling like the 80% of people. Moreover, if I am not mistaken, it is the 6th perfume I have tried from the set of 20, and I have to say it is the first with good performance. Very good longevity, up to 10 hours on skin, although the dry down becomes quite more incensed, with good projection for the first few hours. I see it as perhaps a more nocturnal perfume due to its intensity and unisex, although I think it will generally please most men due to the intensity of the scent. Scent: 9, Longevity: 8, Projection: 8, Value for money: 7, Versatility: 6, Originality: 9, Overall: 9.
Rien is the first sample from the Etat Libre d’Orange set that truly surprised me. It’s nothing new; it strongly reminds me of the balsamic and sweetest part of YSL’s Kouros, minus most of the animalic notes, and it bears a striking resemblance to Roja Dove’s Diaghilev. Still, it remains an unusual and daring scent, especially these days. The notes with the most presence are the leather, with its intense and slightly animalic character; the aldehydes, which give it a soapy, spicy edge; and the incense, which provides strength and that balsamic tone. I also detect the resinous woody base and the spice blend, while the rose helps to dust the fragrance slightly. It is certainly a difficult, different scent, not for everyone; but at least the wearer escapes smelling like the 80% of people around them. If I’m not mistaken, it’s the 6th perfume I’ve tried from the set of 20, and I must say it’s the first with good performance. Excellent longevity, lasting up to 10 hours on skin, although the dry-down becomes quite incense-heavy, with good projection in the first few hours. I see it as perhaps a more nocturnal scent due to its intensity and unisex nature, though I believe it will generally appeal more to men due to the intensity of the aroma. Scent: 9 Longevity: 8 Projection: 8 Value for money: 7 Versatility: 6 Originality: 9 Overall: 9
I already knew from the listed notes that this wasn’t for me, and indeed, although I expected greater disappointment, it wasn’t quite as bad. Since I didn’t notice it excessively, it didn’t bother me much, plus it had a slight sweetness to it. Based on what others say, I expected it to be denser and more of a ‘bomb’, but it’s quite relaxed; now, eight hours later, it’s practically non-existent. I received a compliment straight after putting it on, so the trail isn’t entirely bad; they said it smelled powdery. But to me, a sudden mix of patchouli, leather, incense, and aldehydes is a bit much, ugh. Still, considering what I expected, it’s not half bad, haha.
I already knew from the notes that it wasn’t for me, and indeed, although I expected greater displeasure. Since I didn’t notice it excessively, it didn’t bother me much; besides, it had something sweet. I expected it to be denser and more potent, but it’s relaxing. Eight hours later, practically non-existent. I received a compliment shortly after applying it, so the distant sillage isn’t so bad; they said it smelled powdery. To me, it seemed patchouli, leather, incense, and aldehydes all at once, phew, but for what I expected, it’s not too bad.
It is somewhat of a mythical scent; by that, I mean it is the opposite of conventional. It is rare, yet very well crafted and of good quality. Of course, in this case, the Vintage (or first edition) is better and lasts longer on the skin; even the colour of the liquid itself is darker in the older version compared to the reformulated one. Regarding the scent, it is incense-heavy, and you can clearly detect the aldehydes, cumin, iris, patchouli, oakmoss, black pepper, and roses. Its projection is potent and its trail is wide. It is somewhat unisex, emphasising neither gender over the other, perhaps more suitable for special occasions and temperate/cold climates, and preferably at night. It is one of the best fragrances from the house. It also gives me an air of Amouage’s Fate Man, as they share certain notes; perhaps I will buy a bottle in the not-too-distant future… I recommend this to those who like highly oriental and heavy scents. Longevity: 8.5/10 Versatility: 4/10 Projection: 9/10 Fixation: 9/10 Quality: 8/10 Trail: 8.5/10 Scent: 8.5/10 Overall: 8.5
From the start, leather, incense, and aldehydes stand out. The opening is strong, bitter, and unpleasant. I don’t notice much evolution; it’s quite linear; perhaps it becomes slightly softer and more wearable, but it remains a very strong scent. I don’t see it on women due to its crudeness and bitterness, nor on men because the smell simply doesn’t please me. I struggle to imagine anyone smelling like this while trying to smell good. It has good longevity and acceptable projection. I recommend it only to those who like strong and strange scents to experiment, but if someone wants to simply smell good, my answer is no.
From the very first moment, what stands out most is leather, incense, and aldehydes. The opening is potent, bitter, and even unpleasant. It evolves very little, remaining quite linear; perhaps the only change is that it becomes slightly softer, making it marginally more bearable, but it remains a very strong scent. I cannot imagine this on any woman, as its rawness and bitterness do not suit the feminine gender, nor on a man, simply because I do not like it. I struggle to picture anyone who wants to smell good and yet smells like this. It has excellent longevity and the projection is not bad either. I would only recommend it to those who enjoy strong, unusual scents and wish to experiment, but if you are looking simply to smell good, the answer is a resounding no.
What a beast; it smells of leather, musk, myrrh, and incense. It is a blend of floral leather and incensed notes with nuclear potency. Be careful not to over-spray.
Another abomination from the most cheesy house in perfumery. I hated it from the moment I smelled it; it smells like furniture cleaner, mixing liniment for bruises and bleach. I spilled some drops on the floor and had to endure the stench for days (no joke). It’s not pleasant, elegant, or fun, simply it’s bad. Longevity: great, sillage: enough to annoy your loved ones. PS: Apologies to lovers of the house, I couldn’t take it anymore.
Another abomination from the most cheesy house in perfumery. It filled me with hatred the moment I brought my nose to the sample; it smells like a furniture cleaner made with liniment for bruises and bleach. Unfortunately, I dropped a few drops on the floor and had to endure that stench for several days (no joke). It is nothing pleasant, elegant, or entertaining. The Nébula 1 by Oliver & CO is peculiar and half the people will not like it, but it does not offend and is olfactorily fun; this one is simply bad. Longevity: unfortunately, very high. Sillage: enough to annoy your loved ones. PS: Please forgive the lovers of this house, I could not take it anymore >:(